The all grain kit was out of stock when I ordered, so I went with the DME version. I used Mangrove Jack's M44 yeast to ferment. I used my RO water to brew with and since there were specialty grains, I went ahead and adjusted my water for an IPA.End result was a very tasty IPA.Even though the IBUs are supposed to be 7 (according to Brewfather), the perceived bitterness seemd much higher. Not a bad thing.The ABV finished out much higher ay 8.5%, so yeah, this will get you there. If I were to do the DME version again, I would probably remove 2lbs of DME.This extract kit also comes with acidulated malt, which is completely unnecessary. I added it before realizinig this. My pH was at a 4.4 so I had to adjust that a bit. All in all, very good beer, just not really sessionable as I would like due to the high ABV. Had a dank grassy west coast IPA flavor, which probably had a lot to do with my choice of yeast. Again, so a bad thiing. I have it on tap now and plan to bottle a few for my friends. Because it is a very good beer. I would recommend this beer if you lik IPAs. 4 stars because IMO extract is just cheating and I can't really give more than 4 for that reason. However, if you prefer extract brewing and like IPAs that are hoppy anf full of flavor, you cant go wrong with this brew.