I took Nelsons advice (First Post) and used the Brett Trois wlp644 with a large 1000ml starter.. People who hate IPA/APA's loved this beer because of the citrus, mango, and pineapple flavors brought out by the Brett. It was so good my rubix cube fell off my desk and completed itself, neighbors called the police and they got arrested, my windows broke and had to buy a Mac, my water turned into wine, and I had to order more.. Seriously though, this is a really amazing beer kit and I would recommend it to any brewer looking to brew a killer IPA.