Originally bought this as an extract kit, but then purchased a mash tun and ended up going all grain, my first attempt. While the mash temp was lower by 10 degrees and I forgot to add the specialty grains to the mash, no wonder it seemed I had too much water, this beer came out fantastic! Given a 4 but would probably be a 5 if I didn't screw the recipe up.I was ready to dump it after I saw the OG being very low, as I did not come close to the desired OG. However, I let it ferment and 3 weeks later I bottled it. While the mouthfeel was a bit then, the flavor was spot on. It was roasted coffee with a toffee or caramel sweetness. ABV was about 6.5%, easy drinking with a great head! More details on the beer - https://contributingfactorbrewing.com/?page_id=99